The Unmistakable Cultural Influence of McDonald’s (Episode 119)
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Hello and welcome to the world’s foremost low-carb podcast, “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore!”
In today’s episode, our host Jimmy takes a look at the marketing juggernaut of fast food giant McDonald’s and the latest research on their mega-media-indoctrination of children. What kind of power does this corporation have over our kids? Try this: a McDonald’s logo makes kids think that even carrots taste better–and Mickey D’s doesn’t even sell carrots!
Are your kids fast food zombies? Are major corporations unscrupulously marketing HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) and other high-glycemic garbage foods to the youngest of our youngsters? Share your opinion in the comments section.
Listen in for all this and much, much Moore in Episode 119!
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 119:
- Thomas Robinson’s study on McDonald’s branding published in August 2007 issue of Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine
- Related blog post: McDonald’s ‘R Gym’ Concept Just Another PR Stunt To Avoid Obesity Lawsuits
- Related blog post: McDonald’s Fighting Childhood Obesity And Diabetes? Ha! Now That’s A Good One!
- Related blog post: Study: Fast Food Makes You One-Third Fatter
- Related blog post: McDonald’s Claims Their “High-Quality” Foods Are Part Of A “Balanced Diet”
- Related blog post: I’m Lovin’ It: McDonald’s To Print Nutrition Info On Food Packaging In 2006
- Related blog post: Kids Fried Junk Food Consumption Doubled
- Related blog post: ADA Reveals Fried Potatoes Comprise Half Of Children’s Vegetable Intake
Did you miss anything Jimmy said? Don’t worry, there’s a full transcript waiting for you — just click the following link!
Transcript of Episode 119:
Coming up…the unmistakable cultural influence of McDonald’s.
Hey there and welcome back to Episode 119 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore.” THANK YOU to everyone who left comments about my second interview with low-fat diet guru Dr. Dean Ornish over the past two weeks as we heard him discuss his dietary philosophy as espoused in his new book entitled The Spectrum. It was a very challenging debate since Dr. Ornish was stuck on his rigid talking points and avoided veering too far off course from his prepared remarks. Even still, I’m glad I did the interview at his request, by the way. I’ll be posting some of my final thoughts about that interview this week at my LivinLaVidaLowCarb.com blog, so be sure to check it out.
Because of the tremendous amount of positive feedback about my interviews in recent months, I am pleased to let you know I will be conducting even more of these to share with you in future episodes of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore.” There are doctors, researchers, journalists, nutritionists, and people who have lost lots of weight that I am excited about bringing to you right here for your listening pleasure over the next few months. People like “B” from Season 4 of the hit NBC television reality weight loss show “The Biggest Loser,” the author of the blockbuster book Good Calories, Bad Calories Gary Taubes, Protein Power authors Drs. Mike and Mary Dan Eades, low-carb researcher from the University of Connecticut Dr. Jeff Volek and so many more. It’s an exciting time right now to be a part of the low-carb community, so hang on tight as we take this ride together!
Today I wanted to talk to you about marketing. With my blog, book, podcast, YouTube videos, and even my new low-carb “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” chocolate bar, I’m constantly branding and marketing my slogan and message about healthy low-carb living. It’s an effective means to get the word out about this amazing lifestyle change that radically altered my life and the lives of so many of you who are listening right now. Keeping that message front and center in all that I do is the key to effectively marketing all that I have to say. And if anyone ever doubted the enormous impact of the marketing blitz undertaken by the world’s most famous fast food restaurant on the most vulnerable members of our society–CHILDREN–then I would simply refer you to a study published in the August 2007 issue of the Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine that should scare the living daylights out of anyone who cares about the subject of health. This is just plain frightening if you ask me. Lead researcher Dr. Thomas N. Robinson, Associate Professor of Pediatrics and of Medicine at the Stanford University School of Medicine, and his fellow researchers wanted to examine the “effects of cumulative, real-world marketing and brand exposures” on toddlers to see what effect, if any, consumer branding would have on their food preferences. A total of 63 children between the ages of 3 and 5 from low-income families from the government assisted Head Start program in San Mateo County, California were give five pairs of identical foods and beverages–hamburgers, chicken nuggets, French fries, milk or juice, and carrots–that were packaged in wrappers stating they were either from McDonald’s or in plain packaging with no branding at all. Each of the study participants were asked to tell the researchers if the foods tasted the same or if they had a preference for one over the other. Wanna hear the stunning results? The children almost universally preferred the food and said it tasted better when it was wrapped in McDonald’s packaging than in the plain packaging. Remember, IT WAS THE EXACT SAME FOOD! Here are some of the other key findings from the study:
- 77% preferred the French fries they thought were from McDonald’s
- Only 13% liked the non-labeled French fries
- 54% liked the McCarrots compared to 23% in the plain wrapper
- 29 kids chose the McDonald’s hamburger, 22 the other one
- Less than one in four said all the food tasted the same
A closer analysis of the study participants who had multiple television sets in their homes and were more heavy users of McDonald’s found that there was an even “greater effect of branding” among this group. The conclusion of the researchers was quite predictable when they wrote the following in response to their study: “Branding of foods and beverages influences young children’s taste perceptions. The findings are consistent with recommendations to regulate marketing to young children and also suggest that branding may be a useful strategy for improving young children’s eating behaviors.”
WOW, can you believe this? In a way, it’s good news to know that McDonald’s has this kind of powerful influence over the behavior of kids that the study participants would even think that McCarrots, which don’t really exist on the McDonald’s menu, tasted better just because they are from Mickey D’s. But I for one have very little confidence that the world’s #1 fast food restaurant chain will do the right thing with that enormous power they wield over the youngsters. We’ve seen what they think is “healthy” in recent marketing efforts and it’s a far cry from what it could be. While the new R Gym concept at McDonald’s which is meant to encourage exercise is a pretty good start, there seriously needs to be a better effort on their part to get the menu choices even healthier for those precious little ones who are the future. It’s amazing how you just call something McBLANK and the kids go hog wild for it like it’s the best thing they’ve ever tasted. That’s powerful and absolutely blows my mind. Years upon years of indoctrination through unrelenting marketing by McDonald’s has given them such a branding foothold on all their competition. Nobody else in the restaurant industry or any other business can even come close. Although the young study participants were from poor families, Dr. Robinson said he is confident there would be similar results among the more moderate to high-income families as well, especially with more exposure to the branding not just on television but also on the Internet.
There has been a steady movement in recent years to blame fast food companies for rising obesity rates in the United States and around the world. Ever since Morgan Spurlock’s Supersize Me movie became a surprise independent big screen box office hit a few years back, McDonald’s has done everything it can to soften the backlash they’ve been getting, including donating millions of dollars to fight childhood obesity. That’s quite admirable on their part, but we come back to this branding issue again. I remember one scene in Spurlock’s documentary that showed a group of kids looking at famous Americans and they were asked to identify who these people were. Most of the kids were absolutely perplexed and dumbfounded by the most familiar of famous people. But when Ronald McDonald’s picture was flashed in front of them, they knew EXACTLY who that was instantly. That’s the power companies like McDonald’s have over what kids eat that has consumer health groups gravely concerned. A step in the right direction was made when McDonald’s and junk food companies pledged to stop advertising their products to young children. It’s a voluntary, non-arbitrary, non-binding agreement, so who knows how long it will actually last? With a recognizable branding in the upper ninety percentile for McDonald’s, they don’t really NEED to advertise anymore. Everybody knows about Mickey D’s. At the same time, though, everybody SHOULD at least know that fast food will make you fat–there’s just no question about it. But it doesn’t help when McDonald’s remains quite delusional about this fact by claiming their food is part of a healthy lifestyle. Riiiiiiggght! NOT! And while putting the nutritional info of the foods on their packaging was a nice gesture (although they conveniently left off the carbohydrate counts on this nutritional label–UGH!), it’s gonna take a lot more than that for McDonald’s to prove they are serious about the obesity problem and being a part of the solution. Studies have shown fried junk food consumption has DOUBLED and it keeps going higher and higher. Even the American Diabetes Association admits fried potatoes comprise nearly half of the vegetable consumption by children. EEEK!To make matters worse, McDonald’s thinks it IS serving healthier food because their Happy Meals contain Apple Dippers with caramel dipping sauce loaded with high fructose corn syrup and lower fat content in the rest of the food. Newsflash–that don’t mean it’s healthy! And even Dr. Dean Ornish is one of the health advisors for McDonald’s. So much for his insistence that he agrees with low-carbers that refined carbohydrates are unhealthy as he stated to me during our interview. I’m sorry, Dr. Ornish, but there’s absolutely no reason why anyone should be eating high fructose corn syrup. EVER!
And get a load of this politically correct response from a McSpokesman named Walt Riker. “[Making better food choices] is an important subject and McDonald’s has been actively addressing it for quite some time. We’ve always wanted to be part of the solution and we are providing solutions.” Oh really?! What solutions would that be, Mr. Riker? Pretending you care about health is nothing but a ruse and everyone can see right through it! How about offering some plain blueberries and/or strawberries instead of apples and a high-sugar dipping sauce? Why not offer the much healthier fatty portions of meat for children to eat to give them the essential macronutrients their bodies need to develop and grow into strong adults? You can’t answer these questions without shining the spotlight on the inadequacies of your overall business model at McDonald’s and therein lies the problem. While this study confirms the branding capacity of a company in its attempt to market their products, the sad truth in all of this is McDonald’s is the one with all that power over the children. This is all the more reason why parents should take back control of what their kids are eating and not allow the external influences take away their responsibility as parents. Interestingly, only two of the children in the study had NEVER been to a McDonald’s before, although close to one-third of them were heavy users going WEEKLY. This was indeed a fascinating study that reminded me somewhat of the work Cornell University psychology professor Dr. Brian Wansink is doing with his Mindless Eating concepts. Dr. Robinson should send his study notes to Dr. Wansink because I believe they are both on to something HUGE!
That’s all the time we have for Episode 119 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore.” So what do you think about this incredible study on the power of marketing on your children’s eating habits? Is there a way to break this stronghold McDonald’s has on the hearts and minds of children? Share your comments in the show notes section at TheLivinLowCarbShow.com. And be sure to come back again on Thursday as we tackle yet another important topic relating to diet, health and nutrition. So, until next time, keep on livin’ la vida low-carb!
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Great topic Jimmy! My daughter is a McD’s junky. She seems to think they have the best chicken in the world. I honestly believe she associates McDonalds with fun and good memories (I’ll take the blame for that, we went a lot when the kids were younger) and so it’s her favorite place. The food could taste like plastic (sometimes I think it does) and she’d still want to go there. Yet I could offer her chicken nuggets from another fast food place and she assures me it’s not as good, although I can’t tell the difference. It’s just nutty.
I’d love to see McD’s offer some REAL food, especially to the kids. Not just apples with sugar to dip them in.
Jimmy, Hello, I feel if they did not put that TOY in the crappy meal my kids would not want to eat there so bad….
Jimmy, I feel like this is the parents responsibility. My kids have eaten at McDonald’s maybe 12 times and they are ten. I have taken them to taco h*ll more often but there are only a hand full of things I will buy. I’m the adult, I have the money therefore I have the power!!!! I can’t fault the company for there freedom to make money. But I have freedom as well.
When I last walked in one the nutritional poster was right on the wall and I made my choice using free will. Kids don’t have all that info so parents are supposed to be the responsible. One thing I did for my kids when we still had direct TV was explain that commercials are supposed to make you want to by things. I would point out how something looked different on TV than in the store and the kids got it. One year when I got lazy they became complete TV addicts and whined about wanting EVERYTHING, so I turned it off. We haven’t had cable or direct TV in 4 years and if there is something they want to watch we get it on DVD. They still know the fast food places exist. They may even get some once in a while, but they don’t expect or beg for it like my nephews do. They know it’s bad for you and my daughter has often left half the food sitting because, “it didn’t taste good and will give me bad skin and hair”.
I’m all for bashing McDonald’s but eating nothing but pasta can make one just as obese as consuming McDonald’s fare. Why not outlaw pasta?
Amy, your daughter is EXACTLY what this study was all about. It’s scary how easy Mickey D’s was able to get such a firm grip on her and she’ll have that with her throughout her life and the life of her children someday. It’s a ruthless cycle.
Brigitte, you aer so right! Putting a toy with high-carb junk food doesn’t make it healthier. Even those little pedometers McDonald’s put in some Happy Meals a few years back was missing the point.
I could not agree with you more, Maya! Ultimately, it does come down to parental responsibility and parents needs to be parents to their kids. Too many parents use the excuse that they are too tired to cook, so McDonald’s is convenient. Since I’m not a parent myself (although I’d REALLY like to be!), I will reserve judgment on why parents do this. But the final arbiter of what goes into your kid’s mouth is YOU!
Alex, I’m not in favor of bashing McDonald’s because they are simply a business trying to make a profit. Yes, they happen to have MUCH more power than any other industry, so they do have a responsibility to offer better choices for their consumers. I’m not trying to “outlaw” McDonald’s, so I’m not sure what you point is regarding pasta. The bottom line is people should be given better choices rather than being forced to choose between two evils when eating at Mickey D’s.
THANKS for those GREAT COMMENTS everyone! Anyone else?
After living in Asia for 5 years (and traveling to other countries), I’ve seen the power of McDonald’s worldwide. Last week, I saw at least a hundred Chinese schoolkids eating at McDonald’s in Taipei. (My guess is that their parents didn’t have a clue where they were spending their lunch money) Obesity is on the rise in Asia, and many people think restaurants like McDonald’s are mostly to blame. I would have to agree with them; without McDonald’s, these kids would never eat things like french fries. There’s something about McDonald’s that sucks people into that restaurant…and kids are definitely affected by all of the advertising. Their favorite athletes and pop stars are in the commercials and on the billboards; of course they notice those kinds of things!
Great podcast, Jimmy!
Thanks for the great show Jimmy. My son Max is 3 and already does say “McDonald’s for sups!” when we drive by one, we try very hard not to give in too often, I used to be a junkie for Dairy Queen’s Large Chocolate Malts until I looked up the calorie count in one online - 1200!!!! in one drink!
Taiwan gal, you are exactly right! The Western influence is unmistakable in Asia and it’s gonna keep getting worse and worse. Mickey D’s isn’t solely to blame, but they obviously have played a role in it.
Jon, I’m proud of you for being an example for Max. It makes you wonder if the human race has evolved to just instinctively know about McDonald’s. Hmmm…..
Hi Jimmy. Great topic. I do take my kids to McD’s every now and then and I have had the yogurt parfait on occasion. Every now and then I taste a french fry from one of their bags and I tell them that they taste like the oil is old, they aren’t served hot enough (they only taste good when piping hot) and that they aren’t salty enough, too salty, etc. They are slowly beginning to realize that I’m right and that the fries there aren’t very good. I think they taste like old, used oil most of the time and I tell them that the managers are too lazy to change the oil enough. If kids are taught to really taste the food they eat they do become better at determining what REALLY tastes good.
We used to go to Mcd’s on Wednesday nights after a busy sports and music lesson filled afternoon. Now they prefer a Japanese restaurant and we get a bunch of different kinds of sushi, edamame and miso soup.
My boys are 10 and 13 and they both cook, love international food and are excited about trying new flavors.
I think eating junk food is fine on occasion but when parents make a habit out of feeding it to their children, it’s just setting them up for a lifetime of bad health. JMO, of course.
You’re teaching those kids of yours well, Karen! I agree that too much Mickey D’s sets a bad precedence. That’s what my mom did–McDonald’s, Church’s Chicken, Taco Bell, Captain D’s…and let’s not forget the high-carb Hamburger Helper meals, sugary cereals, Little Debbie snack cakes, and the rest. It’s a ruthless cycle that took me 32 years to beat. And it all starts in childhood.
Wow, Karen. That’s a fantastic idea!! I plan on having kids in a few years time, that is definitely something I will have to note down!
Jimmy, you stated “Amy, your daughter is EXACTLY what this study was all about. It’s scary how easy Mickey D’s was able to get such a firm grip on her and she’ll have that with her throughout her life and the life of her children someday”. I disagree - I was completely ‘indoctrinated’ when I was a kid as well. Later in high school it was very popular to drop by the nearest McD’s during lunch break for some. But by the time I got to Uni, it was a sort of rebellion of mine and about everyone I knew (at Uni and outside) and I stopped having McD’s when I was, say, maybe 19 or so. Tried it once when I was about 21 and it tasted disgusting. I learnt from that lesson.
I think you’re the exception, Erica. Speaking from personal experience, once I ate fast food as a kid, I was HOOKED through my adolescence and adulthood until I started Atkins in 2004. It was a ruthless addition and I’m so glad I’m over it now. CONGRATS on not having the desire for McDonald’s food.
I agree about the high fructose corn syrup. It is not only aimed at kids, but also adults. Everything seems to have it, even whole grain bread in some brands. It is hard to find anything (other than meat and produce) that doesn’t. Check labels for spaghetti sauce, and processed meats. I think it is the main cause of the obesity problems in the U.S.