382: Dr. Datis Kharrazian On Thyroid Problems And Metabolic Syndrome

Hello and welcome back to The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore! Today Jimmy kicks off this week's special The Truth About Thyroid Week by talking with Dr. Datiz Kharrazian, author of 'Why Do I Still Have Thyroid Symptoms? When My Lab Tests Are Normal'.  As you'll hear during this interview, Dr. Kharrazian helps us understand how your insulin response may be related to autoimmune issues regarding the thyroid gland. Some advice may surprise you, such as avoiding iodine, passing on gluten-filled foods, and fasting with sugar water.  This will be a podcast to remember!  And don't forget to come back and listen on Thursday as we'll continue the theme of thyroid disorders with Janie Bowthorpe from StopTheThyroidMadness.com.

But first, Jimmy presents a brief 7-minute interview with Maryland Secretary of Agriculture Earl Hance. Maryland has been promoting a Buy Local Challenge program supporting farmer's markets and purchasing from local farmers across that state since 2008. Listen in to hear what motivated the "Old Line State" to start this experiment three years ago and what the amazing benefits have been both economically and in the health of the citizens who have participated.

LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 382
- Maryland Secretary of Agriculture Earl Hance

- Support Maryland's "Buy Local Challenge"

- Dr. Datis Kharrazian bio

- Why Do I Still Have Thyroid Symptoms? When My Lab Tests Are Normal: A Revolutionary Breakthrough In Understanding Hashimoto’s Disease and Hypothyroidism

- Read Jimmy's review of Dr. Kharrazian's book

- ThyroidBook.com

- RELATED PODCAST: Dr. Jorge Flechas On Iodine Therapy For Thyroid, Fibromyalgia And More! (Episode 283)

  • http://www.TheBunnellFarm.com Tom Bunnell

    Jimmy I can't work with this plugin on my Mac. My dictionary and copy/paste and spellcheck and google and save won't work and I lose everything trying to fix things.

  • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

    THANKS Tom! I'll see if my producer Kevin can help.  By the way, it works on my Mac just fine.

  • Jennifer

    Another nice interview, Jimmy!  I just got his book yesterday and it's SO helpful to hear him doing the explanations.  I'm going to have to listen to it a few more times, though, as I really don't get his reason for why the lemonade type fast works, or I guess I should say, why it helps to "reset" insulin resistance.  I need to get busy with the book.  :)

  • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

    Glad you enjoyed it, Jennifer! :)

  • Maria

    Excellent show Jimmy!  Thank you for interviewing Dr. Kharrazian.  My mother suffers from hypothyroidism and is desperately looking for alternatives to the mantras purported by the mainstream.  Your show is quite helpful as well as Chris Kresser's recent writing on the Healthy Skeptic Blog.   

  • Taiwan Gal

    Jimmy…this was so helpful.  I had my thyroid "killed" when I was only 20 years old.  (using radioactive iodine)  The last 13 years, my TSH levels have fluctuated quite a bit, and my medication has changed frequently.  But this is the first time I've ever heard about "autoimmune disorders", and how a gluten-free diet may help people with thyroid problems.  (of course, I already try to avoid gluten…but maybe I need to cut it out entirely).  Anyway, I appreciate your willingness to delve into the complicated world of thyroid problems…this podcast will help a lot of people.  I'm going to post it on my Facebook page. 

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

      Cool! Don’t miss Thursday’s show, too!

  • Mario

    Jimmy,
    Great show, but I would like you to see the other side of iodine, a interview with either Dr. Brownstein, Dr. Abraham or Dr. Flechas.
    I think that Dr. Datis oppinions about iodine are wrong. Iodine only flare a thyroid attack in a person that has selenium deficiency, as has been show in these studies:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828501
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828501
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17044649
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8462484
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14703411
    In his book and site, Dr. K cites some studies carried on some countries that showed a increased Hashimoto incidence after salt iodinization (http://drknews.com/archives/133). The countries he cites are Brazil (São Paulo), Sri Lanka, Turkey, China and Greece. Are these countries deficient in selenium? Let's see:
    Brazil: the study was done in São Paulo, city where most of brazilian japanese lives (I know this because I live in Brazil and my father is japanese). Brazilian japanese have significant lower levels of Se than japanese living in Japan (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11708308).
     
    Greece: selenium status is one of the lowest of the Europe (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3717869).
    China: Minerals as calcium, zinc, selenium, kalium and vitamins as vitamin A, B1, B2 were insufficient (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19731520).
     
    Turkey: Selenium status of Turkish children is found to be lower than that found in the literature (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8886316).
    Turkey: Turkey is one of those countries where iodine deficiency (ID) is widespread, Se levels are marginal (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18039495).
    Sri Lanka: This study has shown for the first time that significant proportions of the Sri Lankan female population may be Se deficient (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11194147).
     
    So, what we are seeing in salt iodinization is probably in reality a selenium deificiency.
     

    Selenium is also know to reduce thyroid antibodies (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20039895) and is low in Hashimoto patients (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18322655, this study found that hsCRP is considerably lower in persons with high serum selenium!).

     
    On his book and site, Dr. Datis strongly advice against iodine supplementation, but advice selenium supplementation (pages 77, 82, 223 and 225). I think these recommendations taken together are dangerous, as selenium supplementation in a iodine deficient person can aggravate goiter and hashimoto (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2045471).
     
    Another thing that I have against Dr. K is that his aproach is limited. In his book, he does not address the influence of endocrines disruptors like fluoride, chloride, bromide, bisphenol-A, mercury and others. Bromide is very high in USA, specially in California, where people have the highest levels of bromide in the world. As the works of Dr. Abraham and Dr. Brownstein has showed, iodine promotes protection agaist bromide, fluoride, chloride and mercury. Iodine and selenium protection agains bromide also has been showed in this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16601782.
     

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

      Mario, I’d LOVE to have Dr. Brownstein or another expert on the subject of thyroid come on my show, but none have agreed to be interviewed. If you have an in with their people, I’m all ears my friend. :)

  • Andy

    Mario,
    Google Flechas Jimmy Moore,
    and you can hear his interview with Dr. Flechas (episode 283), which was one of my favorites.
    Andy
     
    episode 283

  • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

    Actually, you can just do a search here on the podcast page and find it. :)  Type in "Iodine" and it'll be there.  

    • Lisa Sell

      Hi Jimmy,
      I have never posted a comment until now.  I just want to thank you so much for the work you are doing.  I have been listening to your show for about a year now and you have had a few guests that have completely changed my life.  The reason I am posting now is because I never thanked you for having Dr. Flechas on your show. Even though Dr. Kharrazian's beliefs are not the same as Dr. Flechas, I still believe they bring valuable knowledge to your listeners.  It's all about the research and I have been researching for quite a few months now about iodine and the important role it plays in the body.  It's too bad that Dr. Brownstein will not come on your show and I am assuming that it's because he doesn't believe in low carb.  It is my prayer that one day everyone will wake up to the truth about the importance of iodine in the body and the importance of keeping the thyroid healthy.  God bless you Jimmy and keep up the wonderful work you are doing.
      Lisa

      • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

        Lisa, THANK YOU so much! I’ll never stop doing my part to change the world. :)

  • N Hall

    Thanks so much. I am in Australia. I had 2 copies of Dr K’s book shipped out – one I have given to my own doctor. I will see her next week to get her response to it. We have been trying to find sources for the modulators that he uses. Both of us have been chasing answers on hasmimotos for years and tried most of the elements of his approach at different times. The book paints the full picture for the first time which is why it is such an important book. However, hearing Dr K makes it all so much clearer. Thank you so much for your well-informed questioning.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog Jimmy Moore

      THANKS and I hope it provides the answers you are looking for.

  • Mel

    After reading Dr. K’s book, my life has changed. I was dx with hasimotos in Jan 2011. Did nothing to change my eating habits..and continued to feel horrible even with the levathyroxine. So, when I stopped eating “Gluten” and carbs, I dropped 12 lbs in 2 weeks. I am now in week 4, working out every day. Walking/slow jog about a mile and lifting lite weights. I have lost a total of 19 lbs and still going. Read the book, get control of your life. You CAN DO IT!!!  Trust me, I did!!!





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