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	<title>Comments on: Low-Carb vs. Low-Fat: The Teleconference Part 2 (Episode 36)</title>
	<link>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/</link>
	<description>With Jimmy Moore</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-1834</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What can you eat and what can't you eat have Sugar Diabetes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can you eat and what can&#8217;t you eat have Sugar Diabetes.
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		<title>by: Kevin McElroy</title>
		<link>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-1181</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-1181</guid>
					<description>This was a great conference, though far too short. The conference, like the subject of low-carb, was split between two aspects, the social movement of low carb and the scientific research effort. The best questions on the popular movement were asked by Jimmy and Dana Carpender, and the best on medical info were asked by Dr. Vernon. 

However, in the end I think the best point was made by Dr. Gil Wilshire, whom we almost never hear from, that these studies really don't study the diets themselves, but only how well people do or do not hold to diets based on social forces. Almost all long-term studies so far have totally muddied these two things. Therefore, based on shoddy studies such as these, serious researchers still do not have firm, clear evidence to support low-carb over low-fat. 

The popular movement in 2003 died out because it was never a real movement in the first place, that is, it was not based on popular support backed by scientific evidence, but rather was a pure marketing frenzy for the next hot thing. The products were poor quality and overpriced and completely unsupported by the social, media or medical establishments. It was just another pet-rock or Elmo doll.  

The bad news is that, without a large amount of accumulated research behind it,  low-carb is still unverifiable. The good news is that, without any strong evidence against it, low carb is also still irrefutable. So the road ahead may be long and winding,  but it is still clear and wide open. We are not just turning a few scientific heads, we are reversing the misguided momentum of an entire social culture. 

As we can see from all this, the scienctific establishment is not immune to social pressures to "find" or hide certain outcomes, and society will clearly respond very sheepishly to what a scientific or government establishment tells them to believe. Remember the study of how people would inflict torture on others if an authority told them to do it? This is what we are seeing here on a vast social scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great conference, though far too short. The conference, like the subject of low-carb, was split between two aspects, the social movement of low carb and the scientific research effort. The best questions on the popular movement were asked by Jimmy and Dana Carpender, and the best on medical info were asked by Dr. Vernon. </p>
<p>However, in the end I think the best point was made by Dr. Gil Wilshire, whom we almost never hear from, that these studies really don&#8217;t study the diets themselves, but only how well people do or do not hold to diets based on social forces. Almost all long-term studies so far have totally muddied these two things. Therefore, based on shoddy studies such as these, serious researchers still do not have firm, clear evidence to support low-carb over low-fat. </p>
<p>The popular movement in 2003 died out because it was never a real movement in the first place, that is, it was not based on popular support backed by scientific evidence, but rather was a pure marketing frenzy for the next hot thing. The products were poor quality and overpriced and completely unsupported by the social, media or medical establishments. It was just another pet-rock or Elmo doll.  </p>
<p>The bad news is that, without a large amount of accumulated research behind it,  low-carb is still unverifiable. The good news is that, without any strong evidence against it, low carb is also still irrefutable. So the road ahead may be long and winding,  but it is still clear and wide open. We are not just turning a few scientific heads, we are reversing the misguided momentum of an entire social culture. </p>
<p>As we can see from all this, the scienctific establishment is not immune to social pressures to &#8220;find&#8221; or hide certain outcomes, and society will clearly respond very sheepishly to what a scientific or government establishment tells them to believe. Remember the study of how people would inflict torture on others if an authority told them to do it? This is what we are seeing here on a vast social scale.
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		<title>by: Jimmy Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-950</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-950</guid>
					<description>Awww, THANKS Linda!  I'm happy to be here for you.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww, THANKS Linda!  I&#8217;m happy to be here for you.  <img src='http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Linda Pickett</title>
		<link>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-948</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/low-carb-vs-low-fat-the-teleconference-part-2-episode-36/#comment-948</guid>
					<description>I think one of the most important fact  you can get from this podcast is that you need support. Someone mentioned having a coach. I agree that you need a strong network to help achieve this lifestyle. That is why Jimmy's blog and podcast is such a godsend.He keeps you updated on the latest low carb news plus is very helpful in answering any questions. Jimmy, my hero and my coach!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the most important fact  you can get from this podcast is that you need support. Someone mentioned having a coach. I agree that you need a strong network to help achieve this lifestyle. That is why Jimmy&#8217;s blog and podcast is such a godsend.He keeps you updated on the latest low carb news plus is very helpful in answering any questions. Jimmy, my hero and my coach!
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