Jimmy Moore’s Interview With Kimmer From Kimkins: Part 2 (Episode 71)
23 07 2007
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Welcome to Episode 71 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore,” where we are excited to have the chance to bring you a world exclusive: the first and only live interview ever recorded with Kimmer, the creator of the ever-popular Kimkins diet.
Our host Jimmy and GNMHealth are very pleased to present to you the second installment of an in-depth five-part interview (totaling over an HOUR of raw interview time) where Kimmer answers EVERY single question that all of YOU submitted for Jimmy to ask her.
Whether you are a Kimmer Lover or a Kimmer Hater, you will find plenty to chew on here as she presents her vision of a healthy low-carb diet in her own voice.
A few of the topics covered in this episode:
Should pregnant women be on Kimkins?
Should a teenager go on Kimkins?
How many calories does Kimmer eat daily?
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 71
- Full listing of Kimmer interview questions
- Jimmy Moore’s Kimmer interview-Part 1
Again, a hearty THANKS to RightNOW at Low-Carb Friends who turns out to be fellow low-carb blogger PJ from “The Divine Low-Carb” blog for taking the time to type out a full transcript of this podcast episode, too. Click below and read it for yourself!
Transcript Of Episode 71
This is Episode 71 of the Living La Vida Low Carb show with Jimmy Moore. Thanks so much for coming back today for part two of my interview with Kimmer from the Kimkims diet. Today I have for you part 2 of my interview with Kimmer from Kimkins, and I do hope that you enjoy today’s broadcast. Part 1 was one of the all-time biggest show that we’ve had, it also generated quite a few responses in the show notes section so, if you have a response that you’d like to leave on any of these episodes of the interview with Kimmer, then please go to The Living Low Carb Show dot com. So without further delay let’s get into Part 2 of my interview with Kimmer from Kimkins.
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J: Alright well let me ask you cause I’ve seen it all over, some of the criticisms of you as well, and your diet plan (K: People are criticising me?!) — I can’t imagine that but yeah they are (laughs) (K: Gee I hadn’t heard [laughs]) — well the question is it’s basically a quote, they quote you, I’m not sure where they get this quote from but apparently it’s supposedly from somebody who wrote to you and I know you don’t ever get any email so its (K: I don’t, and, I’m looking for things to ___? [laughs]) well the email basically was somebody saying their weight loss has stalled, they’d been eating about four bites of chicken and a cup of coffee and what should they do, and supposedly you answered back, “Well you need to cut your calories even more,” and so address that if somebody –
K: That’s a complete lie.
J: Yes.
K: I never said that, I never received an email remotely like that, um, I can’t even justify that with an answer.
J: Well and I can appreciate that response, but that is the, I guess the ongoing saga that’s going on uh, is you see things just like that being posted, and nobody is challenging it so we’re hearing it from the horse’s mouth people, she said, it didn’t happen –
K: Well I think that they shouldn’t challenge it. If someone truly believes that I would say something like that,
J: Yeah?
K: Kimkins is not the right plan for them.
J: Right.
K: Move on down the road.
J: And that’s a good philosophy to have. Well let me go to — speaking of moving on down the road — let me go ahead and go to the next question, particularly we’re talking about fiber on a lowcarb diet, why do you count fiber, and aren’t you just reducing the amount of fiber people should be eating for a healthy diet?
K: Well, my answer to that is that, as I mentioned Kimkins is a compilation of Dr. Atkins’ original plan (J: uh huh), Dr. Atkins was a very smart man and his original plan did not subtract fiber. The 20 carbs he allowed already factored in the fiber content. The purpose of Kimkins is for very quick weight loss. You can take a fiber hit for a few months to get to goal. I mean if people can lose a hundred pounds in five months, you know you do take in some fiber, your body can take that. And some people want to take fiber supplements, the bulking type, and then they’re disappointed on the scale. Bulking, uh, products like psyllium, they work by absorbing fluid in the colon, and it backs up everything. They get very distressed about that, and we want people to lose weight and to continue moving on. But then I ask people how much fiber did they eat before they started the diet? (J: Yeah.) Look at the typical American diet. High fat, low fiber –
J: High carb
K: It’s not that much different.
J: Yeah.
K: The Fiber ___?, the Fiber, ah I’m sorry, the 5-10 fiber carbs from (Hell?) that someone might add from fiber is much less than the USDA recommendation of 30 grams anyway. But then the USDA food pyramid is based on heavy grains
J: I was gonna say we
K: …we see how well that works out.
J: I was gonna say we won’t go there (laughs) the food pyramid, I think all of us will agree, the food pyramid is bunk, whether you support Kimkins or not.
K: It is, it just, it just doesn’t work. It just doesn’t.
J: Well um. So tell us about what you eat now, how many calories, carbs, fat and protein do you eat to maintain your weight, and give us examples of some of the foods you eat on a regular typical menu.
K: OK. Well Jimmy you have to understand that I, I have the same challenges that our members do. I want the Enntemenn’s, I want Doritos, I like going to the mexican place with all this cheese on top of everything and the, the beans on the side, um, I can’t do that. (J: Right.) For one thing, I can’t handle very many carbs, and this is what Dr. Atkins talked about, that people who are overweight have a carb intolerance. That certainly seems to be me. But even more important psychologically, once I start on a no-no food, and that’s a Weight Watcher term by the way (J: yeah), um I, I can’t stop. And so what I do is I stay away from the foods that I can’t handle. And it took me many years to get to the point where I could do that. And, this is why I have so much patience with people who email me and say, I just can’t stay on track what do I do, I don’t say, well gee that’s your problem, that’s too bad. Um, I do offer them encouragement and to continue in their challenges, but I know firsthand how difficult that that is. What I do now is, I don’t use fitday very often, (fitday?) tracking, but I just stay within my modules, and what I do is follow the basic Kimkins diet of, uh the non-fatty protein, and all of my vegetables — I love vegetables — and then I add in my carbs, which um, come from various fruit and some higher carb veggies, um yogurt and a little bit of milk every day, I’m a milk nut. Um, luckily for me, I have no problem passing on pasta and bread and, and rice. Um, I do have a fondness for potatoes, once in awhile I do that, or corn but (????). Because I don’t wanna go down that slippery slope. I’ve been there many times.
J: Well um, just to make it real clear, about how many calories do you think that is?
K: When I checked it seemed to be between 1400 and 1700 a day (J: OK) which is, which is perfect for me, because I, I’m not an exerciser, I do the least amount that I can (J: {laughs}) um, and, and at my age we do lose 10% of our metabolism each decade after 40, and so I’m right on track, I think, I don’t put a whole lot of stock into, into um, the calorie counting, my carbs seem to be 80 to 100ish, sometimes I go over (J: really!), but then I balance that with, with my lower days.
J: Of course that’s true carbs, not net carbs, that’s actually fiber and everything you’re referring to with 80 to 100.
K: Oh yeah. I don’t do, you kn– even if I believed in net carbs, I don’t have the time (J: {laughs}), I’m not figuring, I’m not subtracting “1.2″ out of anything.
J: Well um, the next question that somebody had for you about Kimkins is, is it safe to do Kimkins when you’re pregnant?
K. Please don’t.
J: Please don’t. Can’t get much clearer than that. Please don’t.
K: I wasn’t speaking to you directly –
J: Well I was gonna say, I might decide to have a baby someday, but hopefully it’ll be Christine that’ll be pregnant not me –
K: That’ll be another show Jimmy –
J: Yeah we won’t go there Dr. Phil —
K: Um, no one has done studies on whether ketones are safe for a developing fetus, especially so tiny as the size of your fingernail, particularly for months at a time. I can’t even imagine looking for a pregnant woman willing to volunteer for that study. Now some will argue that our ancestors endured ketosis during times of famine, when there wasn’t much food, and that was true, but it was not continual months, it’s just not a good idea in my mind. Please don’t.
J: Can’t make it clearer than that. Well the next question talks about, and, and, of course you’ll be able to attest to this personally because you are doing it longterm, but somebody asked, Is the Kimkins diet, well first of all they asked is it good over the short amount of time to lose as much weight like you lost almost 200 lbs in less than a year, and, they asked if it’s safe to lose that much weight, I can answer that one for ya, I lost 180 pounds in 12 months, so I know it was a lot better for me to be 180 lbs less, after a year, it didn’t matter that I did it fast. What, you know, what do you say about the speed of the weight loss, isn’t it better to get thin and get out of danger, when it comes to your health, than it is to just remain at that big size — ?
K: Of course it is!
J: Of course! I mean that, that to me is a no-brainer.
K: What’s dangerous is staying obese and waking up tomorrow with Type II diabetes, or kidney disease, or high blood pressure.
J: Right.
K: This is why I love The Biggest Loser TV show.
J: Oh I love that show.
K: I don’t — ___ exercise, so it makes me a little bit nervous seeing all that activity. And what they show is under the supervision of trainers and physicians, these people are losing tremendous amounts every week.
J: Yeah, the guy –
K: My goodness if you lost 2 pounds a week you’d be voted off.
J: Yeah {laughs}
K: Um, there’s nothing dangerous about losing vast amounts of weight, what is dangerous is staying obese, developing conditions, not being around for your family, and
J: Right
K: Particularly for men who traditionally, don’t have as much diet experience as women, um, leaving families that need them. Or, moving on down the line and being a burden to your family, which no one wants to be.
J: No, and that was one of one of my impetuses for losing weight too was I didn’t want to be a burden and I wanted to be here a long time for my wife Christine and, and the rest of my family so it definitely makes a difference. Well, so transitioning with that question into the one I was originally gonna ask you, people wanna know, is the Kimkins diet safe to do over the long term, now you’ve been eating this way what, six or seven years now, and you seem to be doing well –
K: I haven’t died yet –
J: I was gonna say, if you’re speaking to me from the grave I’m in trouble
K: What you do is, you eliminate simple sugars, and that does include sweet fruit, we actually do eat fruit, and this was pointed out by one of our Kimkins vendors “Landy”, who pointed out that bell peppers are a fruit, zucchini are a fruit, um, any plant that produces a fruit, um, that’s a fruit. Um, we’re fond of course of the sweet fruits, but the sugar in sweet fruits is sugar, not any different than table sugar, you can pass on that for right now. But over the long term, you can factor back in small amounts of that but none of us can go back to what we used to eat, without going back to what we used to weigh.
J: That’s right. Well the next question that someone had for you Kimmer is, um, you do encourage a multi-vitamin with your Kimkins diet, but this tends to leave the door wide open for Omega 3 Essentially Fatty Acid deficiency. So how do people following Kimkins get these ah, essential Omega 3’s in their diet?
K: Ok well I recommend a high-potency multi-vitamin as a minimum. (J: Ok.) I’m not an expert on supplements, although I can have my own beliefs. But what I’ve noticed over the years is that some people figure if Kimmer says do XYZ, they’ll do twice as much. (J: Yeah.) With supplements, particularly the fat soluable types, this can be toxic. And that is why I shy away from making recommendations. We have many threads on the Kimkins site and I, I don’t post on them, I don’t say what I do, beyond Milk Thistle which I do take, and I just leave the good quality multi-vitamin as the minimum. Um, people are free to do their own research, and to add what they need, many members share with each other, about what they do, but I am, I am very cognizant of (___?) recommendation. And I stay away from supplements for that reason.
J: K, fair enough. The next question that one of my readers wrote to me was, do you have a medical disclaimer on your website, and this question was borne out of the concern that you are providing medical advice, and you’re not disclaiming that you’re not a licensed physician or able to practice medicine, so, do you have –
K: Well we have a medical disclaimer on the site (J: OK) if I had a dollar for every post, where I say, where I start a post saying, “I am not a doctor,” I am not a doctor, I am not a nurse, I have no medical training, I will not diagnose anyone over the phone, or over the website, or over PMs or naything else. Their best advice of course is their doctors… doctors maybe, maybe not, are clued in with lowcarb eating, but their best, their best source for advice is their doctor, especially if they have medical conditions, um, we state, quite, quite up front, if you have a kidney condition, please don’t do Kimkins, or any other lowcarb diet. Lowcarb doesn’t cause kidney problems, but if you do have kidney disease or kidney function problems, the kidneys cannot handle protein and lowcarb is not a good choice for you –
J: And, and that’s good to know that you make that abundantly clear to people right up front. Well speaking of doctors –
K: {laughs} No pregnant ladies, no kidney problems.
J: Yeah pregnant and kidney problems, don’t do the Kimkins.
K: I also turn teenagers away. (J: Oh really.) Only because — we have teenagers on site, but teenagers as I know first hand, tend to be extreme. If you say do A, they will do A times a hundred. And, with my experience with teenagers, I, I just don’t wanna do, to encourage them.
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Oh, this is so rich! Jimmy’s “Kimkins Show” is SPONSORED by Atkins Nutrtionals!!!
I wonder what Atkins Nutritionals thinks about sponsoring an interview with ‘Kimmer’ who BASTARDIZED the Atkins diet into a low-fat starvation diet??!?!?!
Great Interview Jimmy. Atkin’s didn’t work for me the first three times I tried it. Too much fat and not strict enough. I know many men who couldn’t follow Kimkins because they wouldn’t have the discipline and have admitted to me. If this diet isn’t for you, then say nothing and move on to something that does work. Kimmer I wish I found you 5 years ago.
awesome interview
Wow, I’m amazed. Not in a good way, mind you. First, she HAS, many times, given advice to people to cut their calories even lower, when they said they were eating 500-600 a day. Has she forgotten that there are forum threads still in existence that contain her replies to that effect?!? Bald-faced lies.
Second, SHE IS NOT A DOCTOR and she is giving out quasi-medical advice. She cannot rightfully say that “you can take a fiber hit for a few months” – without any medical or healthcare training AT ALL.
The more she talks, the worse I feel about the whole situation and you know I’ve been trying hard to stay on that fence and not leap to one side or the other.
Another thought, after hearing more of the interview.. she says she won’t recommend a supplement or vitamins out of ethics, but she’ll recommend laxatives, MoM and epsom salt + diet coke drinks? What!
I’ve had about enough of this farce now.
Oops! What happened to the “banner ad” for Atkins that is referenced in the podcast.
Oh look, now when you click on “Check out all of our GREAT sponsors!”, Atkins Nutritionals doesn’t even show up anymore!!! Why not???!?!?!!
Okay, so now within the past hour (8:30 PM EDT), the podcast has been EDITED TO EXCLUDE the 2 minute Atkins Nutritionals audio commercial in this podcast that told people to click on the Atkins ad, which as I pointed out much earlier today, no longer exists. I did download the original podcast with the commercial intact, pre-edit. We all know how “edit-happy” Jimmy’s gotten these days.
Obviously the folks over at Atkins Nutritionals were not amused at the idea of actually sponsoring the low-fat, starvation Kimkins scam!
However, the following is still in the text copy that leads one to the podcast: “Also in today’s show, Jimmy gives thanks to our sponsor Atkins Nutritionals, purveyors of delicious low-carb bars and more. Try them TODAY!”
Oh, you also forgot to edit the stated length of the podcast since deleting the 2 minute commercial. It’s no longer 17:11, but more like just 15 minutes total.
LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 71
- Learn more about Atkins Nutritionals bars and shakes
THANKS for sharing, Kimmerexia. Always GREAT to hear from you, my friend.
I see the residual Atkins “sponsorship” text links have been finally deleted. Good job at cleaning up your latest mess!
But the length of the podcast is still incorrect. Since editing out the Atkins Nutritionals commercial, it’s no longer 17:11, it’s only 15:56.
THANKS for your support, Kimmerexia.
With thanks to PJ (RightNOW on LCF), this is the section that got edited out of the podcast today, right after the introduction where it says: “Thanks so much for coming back today for part two of my interview with Kimmer from the Kimkims diet.”
Here’s the part that got cut:
“We’ll get into that in just a moment.
First I wanted to tell you about the Atkins products from Atkins Nutritionals. There are bars and shakes, candy, books, all kinds of things available from Atkins, and, with the bars actually you can have the Atkins Advantage bars, the original bars provide all the nutrition your body needs to keep you moving when you’re on the go. There’s also the Atkins Advantage Caramel Bars, I especially like these, these are new and if you have not tried them they are superior to most of the ??? even the candy bars that are out there, and the creamy caramel makes it taste that much better. There’s also the Atkins Advantage granola bars which has a superior mix of crunchy goodness of granola for nutrition on the go as well, and finally for your breakfast needs there’s the Atkins Advantage Morning Start Bars which has lots of protein and fiber as well as a good source of calcium to get you through your day. So again that is Atkins Advantage products and if you will visit the show notes section at The Living Low Carb Show dot com, click on the banner ad for Atkins Nutritionals.”
THANKS again, Kimmerexia! Your dedication to my podcast show is greatly appreciation.
And appreciated too.
I don’t believe kimmer is eating 1400-1700 calories per day. Not too long ago there was a public fit-day for kimmer and it was around 1000 calories per day.
Kimmerexia,
Obviously Jimmy had to remove the Atkins ad, but the fact that he is leaving all your childish comments about it proves that he isn’t trying to hide the fact.
You seem like you’d love to find a conspiracy or something because the ad went away, but I don’t see it.
Excellent interview! You go boy.
Another excellent interview. You and Kimmer continue to make a positive difference and have a huge support group. Remember the old saying “when the going gets tough…” and let us know other things we can do to show our support.
kimmerexia, it is truly sad to see what lengths you will go to to repeat a very weak and pointless observation. So what. No one cares but you and a small handful of LOUD immature people. What is wrong with you guys. You seem to have an entitlement issue. If you don’t like it, go away. And to everyone else who keeps claiming that certain comments are BOLD (not bald as previously stated) Faced lies, please post the facts to back up that statement. Lazy points are worthless. Support your argument with a link please.
And to Morgan, tell me if you knew someone was constipated you wouldn’t recommend a laxative. And thanks for pointing out that I am not supposed to recommend a diet coke to someone who is thirsty either.
It is easy to see which side is more mature in this argument.
And please everyone who is calling Jimmy edit happy, post proof or quit doing it. No one believes you. It is my understanding he did it as a joke once and ALSO posted the UN EDITED version. So what. And this blog site does not allow for editing comments to my understanding (at least I can’t on my blog).
Please grow up.
Nolo.com:
What the definition of Slander?
A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person’s reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media — for example, over the radio or on TV — it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.
What the definition of Libel?
An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person’s reputation or standing in the community. Because libel is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. Libel is a form of defamation , as is slander (an untruthful statement that is spoken, but not published in writing or broadcast through the media).
Now this has gone way beyond a few choice comments and actions. I would advice Mr. Moore see an attorney to put a stop to this.
Hi,
I am the show’s producer (most regulars here know me). For the record, I do have access to editing and removing comments.
I have not done so, as I don’t personally know too much about Kimkins, and I’m interested to see everyone’s thoughts both pro and con I don’t have any intention to.
Although please don’t take that as an invitation to be either uncivil or to post anything legally actionable!
I enjoy seeing a vigorous discussion, so by all means feel free to post your own perspectives, pro or con.
What is Defamation of Character:
A false statement that injures someone’s reputation and exposes him to public contempt, hatred, ridicule, or condemnation. If the false statement is published in print or through broadcast media, such as radio or TV, it is called libel. If it is only spoken, it is called slander.
Now this has gone way beyond a few choice comments and actions. I would advice Mr. Moore see an attorney to put a stop to this.
I concur, Kevin. Debate is a healthy way to have a discussion of the issues. Personal attacks are probably not the best way to accomplish it. THANKS for the comments everyone! Keep ‘em coming!
Josh.. all the information anyone needs to see the contradictions between what Kimmer has said in this interview and what she has said in the past is all on the LCF forum. Go read it, not my job to do your leg work. Jimmy knows what I’m talking about and that is who my comment was directed at.
I wouldn’t suggest anyone take a laxative for any reason, as I’m not a healthcare professional (yet). I most certainly would NEVER tell that person to take it DAILY while on a particular diet plan, especially when that is contrary to the label directions of the product(s) in question.
I don’t care who kimmer is or if her pics are real or fake. I do care however that she is giving out dangerous quasi-medical advice, and has extensively in the past, and is now trying to pretend that was never done.
Also, Josh.. she recommended cocktails of diet coke + epsom salts.. not simply “have a diet coke if you’re thirsty”. Please read the comment in its proper context before trying to spin it.
Thanks so much Jimmy for helping us learn more about Kimmer and Kimkins. Keep up the good work!
In response to this never ending question (from your podcast): (the email basically was somebody saying their weight loss has stalled, they’d been eating about four bites of chicken and a cup of coffee and what should they do, and supposedly you answered back, “Well you need to cut your calories even more,”. Here is what is in the Ask Kimmer thread at LCF, she NEVER said to cut back on calories:
OP-Kimmer, I don’t know what’s happening. I haven’t cheated at all and I didn’t loose a pound today.?? I ate maybe 4 bites of lean chicken,my coffee and two diet cokes. What causes a stall? Is this normal or is my coffee finally catching up with me? Or could it be bathroon issues? HELP ME KIMMER???
K-Wannalose, what’s in your coffee? What about constipation? What kind of chicken? What have you eaten the last 3 days?
OP-Coffee:SF carmel 2g carbs,30 cals,2.5 g fat, per tbsp (I use 2 carefully measured) sweet n low (1 packet) 1 cup day. 2 days ago I had 2 cups.
Friday Hardly nothing to eat,c 2 cups coffee,2 diet drinks,water
saturday,1/4 chicken breast cooked in George Forman w/ salt,coffee my way,Snow cone w/ SF syrup2oz (did not measure) 5 cals,o carbs o fat,2 diet cokes,
Today Roast beef broiled in oven about the size if a tennis ball 1 diet coke,1 cup of coffee.Constipation? I took laxatives three days ago.Thanks!!!
K-When did the water fast end? You are losing at this very minute! Keep in mind that meat, chicken & fish have zero fiber so there’s nothing to “push them through”.
Have you considered taking a mild laxative each night you’re doing “protein only”? Or, hate to even suggest it, make up a batch of the horrible Epsom salt solution and take a couple tablespoons each night?
How much have you been losing each day before? You’re still losing that right now. When things “move”, you’ll have a whoosh that will bring you up to date.
OP-Thanks Again SO MUCH!!! I was STRESSING!!! Kimmer, You are SO Special!! Kimmer!!! Do you see me today???? 177!!!!! 2 pounds girl!!! Woo Hoo!! Thank You so much for last night!!!
Uniquelymade,I’m hypothyroid on 75 mcg of levothroid. This is working AWESOMELY for me. I probably eat maybe 10 carbs a day if even that! Good Luck!!
So, keep the facts staight people!
Kimmerexia and Morgan – don’t you have anything better to do than bash?? As in any diet plan, a person must show responsible behaviour in their own choices. I, for one, do not need a guard dog. Go away!
Pat, I’m not bashing. Can’t speak for Kimmerexia. I’m having some serious questions and doubts about the safety of this plan and the dangerous advice that “Kimmer” has given out, both on the websites and privately.
Never once have I mentioned anything “personal” about the woman – not bashing anything.
Just wanted to pop back and say it looks like one “battle” in this “war” is over and Jimmy is the victor. The other site has removed it’s links and seems to have stopped the vendetta against you personally. However, I am disappointed to see that my comment from last night has been removed. I thought it was a neutral comment. I simply made an observation and definately supported Kimkins.
Kimmerexia – you need to get a life. If you don’t like Kimkins and you want to remain overweight fine or if you have already reached your goal by some other method fine. Don’t ruin it for others. And if Jimmy really were editing things the first thing he would edit is your idiotic comments.
Josh, Pat and Paul:
Thank you for your feedback! Have a great day!
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Morgan MacLeoid
Kimmerexia
The passion that the two of you exhibit seems uniformed. Human nutrition is not an exact science. Human beings do not all have identical nutritional needs. Nutritional science, if it can be called that in it’s present state, offers only advice based on generalities. That advice may have some merit to an individual as a starting point but in the case of a particular individual that advice can be lethal. Your advice as well as Kimmer’s advice will, in some specific situation, be the entirely wrong advice. However, what Kimmer has proposed is not unique. Criticism of it are based on theories but not on empirical evidence. What empiracle evidence there is suggests that a ketogenic diet is quite healthy for many people. There is space here for only one example. The entire company of the Lewis & Clark expedition subsisted on a diet of lean meat for most of their two year journey without any apparent negative effects.
Have you read these?
Biochemical Individuality. Roger j. Williams
The Ketogenic Diet. Lyle MacDonald
Just wanted to post a little reply. I know there are many people out there who dont belive in Kimkins. My only advise is to try it and if it is not for you then dont spend your time researching podcasts and forums just to bash it. is there nothing more constuctive we can do with our lives.
I have been on Kimkins for 7week I am a 25yr old women with diabeties and HAD high blood pressure and cholesteral. My dr would have been againt this diet had I asked him before I started. BUT i didnt. I went in after 5 weeks on this diet and ALL my blood work came back and I am amazingly healthy. I cannot tell you what this diet has done for me in such a short time. I was told I could die of a heart attack soon with my cholosteral levels. I dont have time to sit around and try and fail another dozen diets.
With that said if you are in disbelif of this diet, do human kind a favor and log off.
Why I belive kimmer dosnt tell us her name or want to meet others is this reason right here. Kimmer can be public, and endure comments (negitive) from a huge percentage of disbelivers. She can take her kids to school and worry about if they are picked on because mommy is an icon for a diet that most dont belive in. OR she can be private. go about her life as she did before this diet craze. She is just a mom like many of us, that found out what works and is telling the world because she is treating us and we would treat other. You bet I am going around telling several people about what works. She wants to be normal but make a difference. How can people talk so bad about a person like that.
Anyway I wish everyone well, and my advise is to try it, my health is BEtter then ever
Just wanted to post a little reply. I know there are many people out there who dont belive in Kimkins. My only advise is to try it and if it is not for you then dont spend your time researching podcasts and forums just to bash it. is there nothing more constuctive we can do with our lives.
I have been on Kimkins for 7week I am a 25yr old women with diabeties and HAD high blood pressure and cholesteral. My dr would have been againt this diet had I asked him before I started. BUT i didnt. I went in after 5 weeks on this diet and ALL my blood work came back and I am amazingly healthy. I cannot tell you what this diet has done for me in such a short time. I was told I could die of a heart attack soon with my cholosteral levels. I dont have time to sit around and try and fail another dozen diets.
With that said if you are in disbelif of this diet, do human kind a favor and log off.
Why I belive kimmer dosnt tell us her name or want to meet others is this reason right here. Kimmer can be public, and endure comments (negitive) from a huge percentage of disbelivers. She can take her kids to school and worry about if they are picked on because mommy is an icon for a diet that most dont belive in. OR she can be private. go about her life as she did before this diet craze. She is just a mom like many of us, that found out what works and is telling the world because she is treating us and we would treat other. You bet I am going around telling several people about what works. She wants to be normal but make a difference. How can people talk so bad about a person like that.
Anyway I wish everyone well, and my advise is to try it, my health is BEtter then ever and Ive lost 30lbs
I don’t know if anyone has seen this, but between this site and others that are now talking about the controversy and these podcasts, how can anyone still promote this diet and this woman?
http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com
[...] In a podcast presented earlier this month with Jimmy Moore, Kimmer stated, “What’s dangerous is staying obese and waking up tomorrow with Type II diabetes, or kidney disease, or high blood pressure.” [...]
Morgan Ketigern sez: “Kimmerexia…The passion that the two of you exhibit seems uniformed. Human nutrition is not an exact science. Human beings do not all have identical nutritional needs. Nutritional science, if it can be called that in it’s present state, offers only advice based on generalities. That advice may have some merit to an individual as a starting point but in the case of a particular individual that advice can be lethal. Your advice as well as Kimmer’s advice will, in some specific situation, be the entirely wrong advice.
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Have you read these?
Biochemical Individuality. Roger j. Williams
The Ketogenic Diet. Lyle MacDonald”
Yes, I have read the latter.
And, exactly what advice have I been “dispensing” other than to beware of the fraud of vLCD diet advice being dispensed by someone who refuses to verify her own claimed weight loss and maintenance.
More importantly: Where exactly are Kimmer/Heidi Diaz’s credentials to be dispensing any medical and/or nutritional advice?
[...] That article was published before Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) was interviewed via phone by Jimmy Moore, in what would become a three part podcast. Without even being asked about teens on her site, Kimmer ended the second installment with the following: I also turn [away] teenagers. Only because — we have teenagers on site, but teenagers as I know first hand, tend to be extreme. If you say do A, they will do A times a hundred. And, with my experience with teenagers, I, I just don’t wanna do, to encourage them. [...]
[...] Do you really believe it appropriate for a teenager to be told she doesn’t need more calories? I thought the diet didn’t have restrictions? What happened to the “eat when hungry” tenet? That’s what I thought the diet was about. If a member says I’m hungry, especially a growing teen who NEEDS her calcium and other assorted vitamins AND minerals AND fat, why not say “eat–just pick from protein and healthy fats” instead of “I don’t agree that you need more calories?” And who’s to say a vLCD WON’T have potential health problems down the road? The owner can’t–she’s not a doctor. She won’t even post a picture of herself. oh, red dress pic…yeah, right. sure. NOT. Plus she’s said that she doesn’t promote to teens (”K: I also turn teenagers away. (J: Oh really.) Only because — we have teenagers on site, but teenagers as I know first hand, tend to be extreme. If you say do A, they will do A times a hundred. And, with my experience with teenagers, I, I just don’t wanna do, to encourage them“), yet when a teen joins, does she block her and issue a refund like a responsible adult and business owner? No, she does that to those who disagree with her. HUH??? [...]
[...] LINKS MENTIONED IN EPISODE 94 – Original Kimmer interview Part 1 – Original Kimmer interview Part 2 – Original Kimmer interview Parts 3-5 – Private investigator photos of a morbidly obese Heidi Diaz – The true dangers of a low-fat, low-calorie diet like Kimkins – Dr. Mark Brinson joins Kimkins as a nutrition counselor – The infamous “red dress” photo belongs to a Russian model – Heidi’s own son reveals she’s a scam artist – Kimmer/Heidi’s ex-husband chimes in about her devious schemes – Fake success story pictures galore at Kimkins – Kimmer allegedly “sells” Kimkins.com – For FREE low-carb weight loss support, come to LowCarbDiscussion.com – Jimmy Moore’s apology for supporting Kimkins – An invitation to former Kimkins members – Official statement over PI investigation photos – Related blog post: “Kimkins Calamity: From Merely A Raw Business Deal To A Really Big Danger” – Related blog post: “Kimkins ‘Cover Girl’ Passionately Declares Diet ‘Dangerous’ After Health Issues Emerge” – Related blog post: “KTLA-TV Unmasks Fraudulent Kimkins Diet Founder, Promises Continued Investigative Series” [...]